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Re:techne and the telos of humanity 1 Year, 12 Months ago
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Sorry to interpose upon your discussion like this, but there does seem to be a lot of incoherent jumping between various related and unrelated topics that appears to make this whole issue rather confused.
One feels bound to say that the connection made between technological development or the necessity thereof and the telos of humanity is fallacious. For, even assuming that there is such an end, and Kant's whole argument regarding this is a leap from the assumption that life has a purpose to the logical conclusion from said assumption that humanity itself must have a purpose or telos (which I'm sure you already realised, I just included this for clarity), there is no means of determining this metaphysical end for humanity and therefore it is an assumption to relate our subjective impression of progress, that being technological development, to this illusive end. I'm sure you can extrapolate the further implications of this strain of thought without me typing out any more.
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Re:techne and the telos of humanity 1 Year, 12 Months ago
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I understand your concern, but the telos of humanity isn't adopted concerning some absolute end (especially in Kant), but the idea is that insofar as there is a notion of humanity that is accepted, then certain ends will develop out of that on a necessary(logical) basis.
I suppose that something to consider in the discussion is that when we speak of humanity in terms of mere identity (a concept that we can use to identify 'a humanity', as in, 'there it is.', which is merely on the level of intuition), then it doesn't seem we can treat of ethical assertions dealing with ends. The notion under consideration here is one that is informative to us in how we live and what we do, and depending upon what we understand this to be we will naturally develop some sort of end that techne can serve.
The development of a telos depends upon our conditions, and ways in which these are thought through our given faculties such that we can consider them in general logic.
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Re:techne and the telos of humanity 1 Year, 12 Months ago
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Kant's telos, as I understand it is based on the idea that there must be an absolute morality or rules of conduct determining what ought to be done whether or not we are aware of them, that such desirable actions which are right are the ends to which our actions should pertain and are discoverable through a process of reason, that the telos of humanity is the sum total of these ends, therefore, whilst you are right that the telos is not treated as an absolute by Kant, my point still stands that you cannot imply a specific connection between a perceived form of progress and progress in the metaphysical sense after Kant's reasoning.
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Last Edit: 2010/05/27 17:31 By Traianus.
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