docjp wrote:
REF 181254
I have not heard of the "antinomies of pure reason", but first I would need to know how "pure reason" is defined? I believe few individuals "know" what the reasoning process involves. But I would be interested in discovering how one defines "reason" without reference to the Esoteric dimensions of Man, or assumptions?

Peace

Well, there's a handy book known as the Critique of Pure Reason that spells all this out.

You talk about the spiritual world but what evidence do you have in order to support this place you come to. You talk as the Mind and Body as something seperate but if I was to remove a part of your brain then I could cause you to lose your memory there have even been experiments where people have lost all sense of who they are by taking away their emotions (labotomies.) If we look at material and dualism. Materialism - the belief that human beings are made up of nothing but matter that the consciousness is found in the brain. Dualism - the belief that man has a spirit (the consciusness) which is seperate from our physical sense. The problem with dualism is that there are too many unexplainable answers for instance a human body has a spatial existence in the world and a soul has none, if this is true then how can something that has no spatial existence effect something that has one? There is far too much empirical evidence that is waighed against dualism which proves that all we are is physical matter. Humans can not have any spiritual matter because it has no spatial existence so how can something with no spatial existence have matter? And because we are nothing but matter then the C is correct along with P1, P2, and P3.

Psimpson wrote:
[quote]"You talk about the spiritual world but what evidence do you have in order to support this place you come to."

The "evidence" is experiential, and can ONLY be experienced by ones intuition as the Attn Aspect of ones Apapsyche shifts from ones physical brain into ones Astral body. One cannot "think" ones way to such evidence. It is not "physical".

"You talk as the Mind and Body as something seperate but if I was to remove a part of your brain then I could cause you to lose your memory there have even been experiments where people have lost all sense of who they are by taking away their emotions (labotomies.)"

Yes, while one is alive, removal of a portion of ones brain will interfere with ones [and by "ones"...I refer to ones Soul, that uses its MIND [a separate vibrational dimension] to operate through the physical brain, and if a portion of that brain is damaged or removed, that removal interferes in the use of the brain by ones Soul and MIND. Man is composed of three simultaneously existing dimensions, two of which are Esoteric [not physical], and one is physical.

"If we look at material and dualism. Materialism - the belief that human beings are made up of nothing but matter that the consciousness is found in the brain."

Consciousness does not exist in the brain, it exists within ones Apapsyche [Operational Energy of ones Soul], and it manifests through [uses] ones brain to relate to and operate on the physical plane.

"Dualism - the belief that man has a spirit (the consciusness) which is seperate from our physical sense. The problem with dualism is that there are too many unexplainable answers for instance a human body has a spatial existence in the world and a soul has none, if this is true then how can something that has no spatial existence effect something that has one?"

The difficulty of comprehension lies in using ones brain [which is limited in its ability to perceive only that which is physical (matter)] to try and perceive that which is not physical [duality]. This is where ones faculty of intuition comes into play. Intuition is a faculty of ones Spiritual dimension [although some try and make "intuition" a part of ones thinking] and ones Apapsyche...which allows one to experience all three dimensions of oneself. I had the same conflict a couple decades ago, wherein I could not resolve how the three dimensions of Man interacted, since all three are composed of separate vibrational realities? Then I intuited ["saw" a connection between] the terms "Word" (Christianity) and "Shabd" (Hindi) [both terms mean the same thing] since both terms refer to a "special" energy that connects the physical plane, the Astral plane, the Causal plane, and the Spiritual plane. I used this concept and renamed it for Man as "Apapsyche": Apas [Sanskrit for work or working] and psyche [Greek for Self, Soul, and Mind]. It is ones Apapsyche that connects and allows ones "whole" to operate, and causes ones physical to appear to be separate from ones other two dimensions. An excellent book on this phenomenon is: The Wireless Anatomy of Man, by Dr. Randolph Stone. I read it perhaps 25 years ago, and it redirected or "corrected" my career path in Psychology and psychotherapy.

"There is far too much empirical evidence that is waighed against dualism which proves that all we are is physical matter."

Surely you do not find it surprising that those confined to the Left-Hemisphere of the brain have used this limitation to "prove" that which they cannot perceive, does not exist? Of course it does not exist to them... but it does exist.

"Humans can not have any spiritual matter because it has no spatial existence..."

No "spatial existence"? You mean that which is not physical [which is the only thing I can see with my physical eyes] cannot exist because I cannot see it with my physical eyes? Well, for those limited and confined to this psychological attachment to the physical [subtle fear of the "Unknown"] this "assumption" is true. But, it is also false [and based on delusional thinking] relative to a greater truth that is only discernible by ones intuition. But of course, for those who are confined to the brain and thinking, this greater reality cannot exist.

" ...so how can something with no spatial existence have matter?"

You mean "physical matter". Clearly physical matter is confined to the physical plane. This is an Absolute Truth. But there are other planes, regions, or dimensions... and what do we call these energies? If you and others object to the term "matter" being used to describe any existence other than physical existence, and prefer to confine "matter" to the physical plane ONLY... that is fine with me. Then let us call the other vibrational dimensions of Creation by their actual names. The Astral region let's call Astral energy, and the Causal region let's call Causal energy, and the Spiritual region let's call Spiritual energy.

What I am saying is that I refuse to deny what I "Know" because others are unable to utilize their faculties of intuition to discover what I have discovered from within myself.

Peace

Critique of Pure Reason...
Thank you.

Peace

Idiot is a term I do not use, but I do apologize if my post caused you to "think" this word. For 43 years of my life, I was limited to the Left-Hemisphere of my brain for relating to the world. To enhance my masters in psychology and psychotherapy program, I engaged a Gestalt therapist in 1978. I experienced a substantial catharsis in which I was introduced to my MIND and its operations, and a deeply repressed trauma taken-on at age three. In a matter of moments my way of being was permanently altered. Long story shortened... after thirty plus years as a psychotherapist, and having worked with the MINDs of hundreds of people, needless to say I am no longer confined to my brain and its thinking. Some thirty-eight years of meditation has also contributed to an enhanced respect for the Esoteric dimensions of Man.

"mainstream science" as you put it, is a perfectly nice place to be for those who are comfortable with being confined to thinking "about" life. I ceased thinking a long time ago because it is so limited. And because my interests are no longer focused on this physical plane. My interests are more aligned with what causes Life, and how one ascends the Ladder of Life? All confined to dimensions beyond the limitation of thinking.

Peace

Thank you for your interest.
I'm sure you have suddenly received a subtle Ah-ha, regarding one thing or another. When suddenly you seemed to "Know" something that you didn't know before, and as soon as you try to "think" about what you just [intuited] is seems to fade away, except for the "memory" of your experience.

Intuition occurs in a moment when one is not "thinking" and ones Attn Aspect of Apapsyche is focused within ones Spiritual realm. This experience is very subtle, and instantaneous.... and ones habit is to immediately begin "thinking" about what one has just experienced. The energy of ones MIND realm is "emotional" in nature. The Energy of ones Spiritual realm [which is where Knowledge is stored] is super subtle and almost "shy" in that any thinking can frighten ones intuition away... so to speak.

Mystics have said that the MIND is like a pond. The slightest breeze [the slightest thought] will cause the pond to ripple, and one can no longer see through the pond to its bottom [which is the barrier to ones Spirituality]. Intuition takes place in an instant when one is still [without thought] and it is fleeting. And it takes a lot of practice to learn to remain still long enough to gather much from ones intuition. Any thinking at all, eliminates any possibility of intuition.

Peace