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Lies 2 Years, 4 Months ago
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Is a lie only a lie if intentional? Do I need to know the truth to lie?
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Re: Lies 2 Years, 4 Months ago
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Re: Lies 2 Years, 4 Months ago
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Yes: a lie is an untruth, knowingly told to deceive. The
word 'Lying', oddly enough, is used by scholars to
cover the broad range of untruths used with intent,
such as manner of dress, common rhetorical social
statements, customs and habits, accepted deceptions,
etc. John Vignaux Smyth's, "The Habit of Lying" is
a great resource that refers to thinkers in humanities
and Philosophy. In Philosophy, you must study a
particular Philosopher's usage of "lying". Kant, for
example, is strictly about verbal untruth as lying,
allows social sacrifice/betrayal in the service of the
verbal ideal (this is sometimes referred to in the field of lying
as 'sacrificial mimesis').
Assuming you speak of the "knowing deception" form,
you don't necessarily need to know the truth to tell a lie.
Example: You can say "The Pope is eating lunch on
Mount Everest". Perhaps you don't know the truth of where he
is at the time, but there is no way he is eating breakfast
on Everest.
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Re: Lies 2 Years, 4 Months ago
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I think it's over the top to call dressing in a deceptive manner "lying". A news account of a man dressing up as a police officer and pulling people over wouldn't say he lied; they'd say he deceived, impersonated, etc. Only if he said "I am a police officer" would they characterize his action as lying.
"Living a lie" is self-consciously an exaggeration.
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Re: Lies 2 Years, 4 Months ago
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My dictionary says what 'lie' means pretty clearly.
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2. something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
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Re: Lies 2 Years, 4 Months ago
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Yeah, but that's like saying people "battle cancer". They actually don't, but cancer is so difficult and unrelenting that it is "as if" one were faced with an army.
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