Hi leonardomenderes, thank you for the links, though they were not the post I was after, am of the feeling that the title was; individual over conformity? or similar?

Found another forum post I find interesting to wrap my mind around and like the idea of considering possibilities of how to achieve happiness?

The post in question is;
Re: Happiness, and how to develop it
www.ephilosopher.com/philosophy-forums/post/reply/0/14/158796/

back to your last post; Suicide bombers have been persuaded that their existence has more
meaning in a bombing death. Meaning is a very powerful thing.

This statement does not include the underlying emotional state of the bomber prior to the persuasion? i.e. for some one to be talked into this action, they are more likely to be persuaded into believing that there is a gross injustice (which may actually be real?), if they come from a social status of no likely hood of begin able to change their self worth due to oppressive cast conditioning etc by this I mean there is an underlying social conditioning which needs to be changed to stop this process happening?

Example of the reverse; how many cases of suicide bombers do you hear of in Australia, New Zealand etc., none from memory.

Most suicide bombers are selected from 'marginalized' immigrant
lives in the West, or from ghetto situations. They are
indoctrinated over weeks or months be recruiting Imaams, who
show propaganda against the enemy, and then hero videos of
prior bombers. Posters are made of bombers, and their families
are given cash prizes.


This statement does not include the underlying emotional state of the bomber prior to the persuasion? i.e. for some one to be talked into this action, they are more likely to be persuaded into believing that there is a gross injustice (which may actually be real?), if they come from a social status of no likely hood of begin able to change their self worth due to oppressive cast conditioning etc by this I mean there is an underlying social conditioning which needs to be changed to stop this process happening?


Some if this is covered above, but some of the most advanced
jihadists are those with advanced degrees in the West, who
come home and can't get work. Direct oppression isn't there
for someone who could have lived a good live at a western
unversity. The psychologists talk about "marginalization" of
all kinds...of being a 'nobody'. Of course, that really opens
up the scope of those who can be used.


Example of the reverse; how many cases of suicide bombers do you hear of in Australia, New Zealand etc., none from memory.


It's difficult to relate that context, since the personal and
the cause scenarios are so different. There isn't much in the
way of recruiting mosques, either. However, Australia has produced
some jihadists for the training camps. The culture is not super
different, especially in big cities.

I suspect a winner/loser culture is the backdrop, and there
might be social oppressions and effects, but they aren't always
just the group factors we think of. One study showed that many
Islamist terror leaders were distant sons of someone powerful or
wealthy, like Osama Bin Laden was. That common thread of feeling
unimportant. Even when you look at military recruiting ads,
they appeal to that young adult yearning for purpose.
We talk about "sacrificing for others" sometimes, with a
soldier, or even a firefighter who dies. Suicide bombing lies
along that continuum, although meaning takes life completely.
Given thousands of years of wars, you have to wonder about a
genetic link. The society as the human organism, the human
as the cell.

Every minute in a life is most precious so we need to make use it in a good way. Suicidal thoughts are really bad; we must stay away from those suicidal thoughts. Suicide is not only kill that person life it will kill their own families happy. So we won’t encourage that.

We are facing many problems in our day-to-day life like money problem and work pressure.

Every problem has solution, we have to find solution for our problems. Suicide is not a

correct decision for our troubles. www.killbut.com is a place to get advice and information

on mental health problems, how to prevent suicide, panic disorder, depression, anxiety and more.

But if the world is doing worse then we individually are. Then, it's JUST LIKE I"VE ALREADY COMMITTED SUICIDE. Of course, that may be regarded unphilosophical considering....