Nonviolent resistance and causation

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Szavieur

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Re:Nonviolent resistance and causation 1 Year, 10 Months ago

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OScoder wrote:
If you like, I think I could justify both these with my favorite theory of causation (Nozik), but I don't have the time right now!

Interestingly, both these are also tactics or 'forces' that millitaries employ in wars - just read Sun Tzu's art of war. Though it isn't strictly related to causation (unless you accept Hume's ideas?) - you might like to take a look at this report - www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/12174 - which suggests that nonviolence actually has a HIGHER success rate than violence.

Hope I understood your point correctly - look forward to hearing back!
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Point understood very well, man. I've read A Force More Powerful, so I'm familiar with some of the major instances of apparently successful nonviolent resistance in history. These remarks of yours I'm quoting sound like they're headed in the direction this thread would best go: Nozik, Humean, etc. theories of causation. So if you'd like to go over how Nozik works, here, godspeed.

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Re:Nonviolent resistance and causation 1 Year, 10 Months ago	Karma: -2
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noble brown

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Re:Nonviolent resistance and causation 1 Year, 9 Months ago

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Non-violent resistance, like any other strategy, has it place. Under the right conditions it can be the most propitious plan of action. However, there are no hard and fast rules in life period much less in matters of conflict. I do believe it is safe to say that the non-violent path is the most ethical if it has a reasonable expectation of success. In other words it ought to be the default plan of action and only additional mitigating circumstances define a more “aggressive” plan of action.

This being said the next question possibly being, “who gets to decide if violence is ethically justified” is more difficult to deal w but not prohibitively so. Ethics being, arguably of course, mostly subjective it is the resisting social groups call. Unfortunately, historically this is usually handled by an elitist minority class that don't truly rep the social groups needs and so the ppl historically end up suffering anyhow on both sides of the conflict.

All in all, conflict is a nasty bit of business and even more so as long as disconnected elites are allowed to manage our social structures virtually a priori.

i do realise that this wasn't the main thrust of your question/argument and i kinda went off track of the question of causation but that issue seemed to be handled much betteer by other posters then i couldve hoped to

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